organization
Technical AI safety research
| Renan Araujo | $12,000 | 83% | 1 |
| EA Community Choice | $575 | 4% | 1 |
| Santeri T | $475 | 3% | 1 |
| Vincent Weisser | $420 | 3% | 1 |
| Kyle Reynoso | $300 | 2% | 1 |
| Zmavli Caimle | $200 | 1% | 1 |
| Tom Burns | $150 | 1% | 1 |
| Donna Dane | $100 | 1% | 1 |
Renan Araujo · Manifund · full post · Aug 25, 2023
WhiteBox Research: Training Exclusively for Mechanistic Interpretability, Aug 2023
Read more ▾Show less ▴TLDR: I decided to regrant $12k to this project. I’m excited about an organized AI safety training program in an under-exposed, important region (Southeast Asia). I think the core team seems promising and worth the investment, despite their juniority. I think getting experienced mentors will be the main challenge (among others), but I think the team is aware of the relevant failure modes and taking the steps necessary to mitigate them. I’d be excited about others donating at least 23k more to this project to make their MVP possible
Why I’m excited about this project
- I’m keen to see new programs happen outside the main hub as a way to widen the surface area of opportunities for talented folks to engage with AI safety. Southeast Asia is one of the regions I’m most excited about due to its large population and geopolitical relevance. - The core team seems organized and promising. They’re quite junior, but seem worth the investment as a way of skilling up by doing. This seems relevant to me especially considering there aren’t other groups trying to fill this gap, as far as I can tell – this project can plausibly allow them to become the experienced folks that would guide others in the future. - To mitigate their juniority, they’re picking a research agenda that has a track record of being useful for getting people interested in AI safety research + develop useful skills for AIS-relevant work. They’re also explicitly inserting their project into a broader pipeline, and establishing sensible metrics of success (e.g., participants winning Alignment Jams, getting into SERI MATS). - I had a call with Brian months ago and another with the whole team today. They gave me some more details about how they’re planning to skill themselves up and mitigate some of the concerns I mention here and Gaurav mentioned above. This made me even more confident about this grant. -
Challenges and concerns
- I’m concerned about their ability to provide high-quality mentorship to program participants considering their juniority and potential limitations around getting senior mentors involved - They haven’t heard back from some relevant people yet (e.g., Neel Nanda), and haven’t run similar programs in the past. - I’d be keen for someone with experience in this kind of program to share their expectations about how this will go. - However, as I mentioned above, this seems like a positive bet in expectation to me. - Creating talent that will end up doing capabilities research - Mech interp is quite dual-use and being the first program in the region to skill people up in this might end up hyping capabilities rather than AIS. - However, I think a) they’re sufficiently aware of this failure mode, and b) AI is sufficiently mainstream I expect this failure mode not to have a big counterfactual downside. - I worry they won’t find sufficiently talented people, and that investing in talent around existing hubs might be more cost-effective. - I think this applies to all projects aimed at field-building outside hubs. However, I think we (as a community) haven’t invested enough in experimenting in programs like these yet – so the information value by itself seems worth it, in case there are low-hanging fruits available considering a lot of talented people can’t effectively go to the main hubs due to e.g., visa limitations. I’ve been more excited about this due to my experience doing talent search via Condor Camp (Brazil) over the last 1.5 year. - As junior folks without a strong track record, I worry they might not be skilled enough to run an entire org/project by themselves. Maybe they won’t be able to follow through their plans. - I think they individually have enough experience in their fields that makes me confident about betting on them. Particularly, in my interactions with Brian, he’s seemed quite organized and competent, and I’ve appreciated his work at CEA and setting up EA Philippines. I know less of the other two team members, but at first glance they seem to have complimentary skillsets and experience.
| Date ↓ | Funder | Via | Amount | Cause | Source | Purpose |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sep 14, 2024 | Zmavli Caimle | Manifund | $200 | Interpretability | manifund | WhiteBox Research’s AI Interpretability Fellowship |
| Sep 14, 2024 | Daniel Friedrich | Manifund | $75 | Interpretability | manifund | WhiteBox Research’s AI Interpretability Fellowship |
| Sep 14, 2024 | Tom Burns | Manifund | $150 | Interpretability | manifund | WhiteBox Research’s AI Interpretability Fellowship |
| Sep 14, 2024 | Santeri T | Manifund | $475 | Interpretability | manifund | WhiteBox Research’s AI Interpretability Fellowship |
| Sep 14, 2024 | Kyle Reynoso | Manifund | $300 | Interpretability | manifund | WhiteBox Research’s AI Interpretability Fellowship |
| Sep 14, 2024 | Tony Gao | Manifund | $50 | Interpretability | manifund | WhiteBox Research’s AI Interpretability Fellowship |
| Sep 14, 2024 | Donna Dane | Manifund | $100 | Interpretability | manifund | WhiteBox Research’s AI Interpretability Fellowship |
| Sep 14, 2024 | Lun | Manifund | $10 | Interpretability | manifund | WhiteBox Research’s AI Interpretability Fellowship |
| Sep 14, 2024 | Lindley Lentati | Manifund | $10 | Interpretability | manifund | WhiteBox Research’s AI Interpretability Fellowship |
| Sep 14, 2024 | Isaac Dunn | Manifund | $50 | Interpretability | manifund | WhiteBox Research’s AI Interpretability Fellowship |
| Sep 14, 2024 | Sasha Cooper | Manifund | $10 | Interpretability | manifund | WhiteBox Research’s AI Interpretability Fellowship |
| Sep 14, 2024 | EA Community Choice | Manifund | $575 | Interpretability | manifund | WhiteBox Research’s AI Interpretability Fellowship |
| Sep 19, 2023 | Vincent Weisser | Manifund | $420 | Interpretability | manifund | WhiteBox Research: Training Exclusively for Mechanistic Interpretability |
| Aug 26, 2023 | Renan Araujo | Manifund | $12,000 | Interpretability | manifund | WhiteBox Research: Training Exclusively for Mechanistic Interpretability |